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inital commit of clone of old repo
2015-04-12 23:06:28 +00:00
2011-07-17 10:06:44 --> themattbeballin (~burchettm@32.150.72.102) has joined #archlinux
2011-07-17 10:06:44 -- Topic for #archlinux is "Welcome to Arch Linux World Domination Inc. <+> Dropping tcp_wrappers support: http://www.archlinux.org/news/dropping-tcp_wrappers-support/"
2011-07-17 10:06:44 -- Topic set by td123 on Sat, 16 Jul 2011 10:07:28
2011-07-17 10:06:44 -- Nicks #archlinux: [[knap] [vEX] __20h__ _fliXR- _ikke_ _nalle_ `kk `lorim a02 a3Dman aaronyy AbX adalgiso adam8157 Adjunct Aepelzen affect afiestas Afnarel aguitel aitorpazos ak-_ alexandernst Alexej64 AlexP alfox alfplayer alienvenom allanbrokeit alpounet alub amunak andyrtr_desktop aNone anonymouse89 anrxc Anthraxium anti-helix Aperculum appamatto aravind Arcanexil archevan Archtivity areisp_ arjovr artwin asack ashadocat Atm0z aupo avocado Awesomaes Axanon axion baedert bandito85 Bane^ banker247 Banton barratt Barthalion bassliner Bassqual1 batrick bauruine bazu bb10 bburhans beat beford BeholdMyGlory belak Belgarion_ benanne benn1 benoror benpro beppu Best_ betamine betuxer bier bier|tp big_t BigBlackDog billdawg Biolunar bioterror bl1nk Blaasvis BladedThesis BlankVerse blast_hardcheese BluABK Bluewind blut BombStrike bond` Borromini bougyman Bowler br0tat0chip brandonros brandonw brensly_ brisbin Brookie bruceber Bugson c0nv1ct Cadynum cafaro Caleb CalimeroTeknik calzifer candybar cantabile canti carlocci carlos_ Carneus Carpe|Diem cassmacguff caveat- cbounce cbreaker_ cbus cedeel celthunder ch077179 ChaozZBubi Chewtoy chip2n chitragupt chris2 chuck616 cicero Cigarillo Cleo clincher Cloudef CME codebit Codynyx comhack cosmonaut[] Count_0 crashmag creyon crs_ crshd cruxeternus CryptoCrack csgeek ct Cthulhu_Dawn cws CyberSix cybrhuman cyen d_garbage da3v dabreaka Dabuti__ Dad` daddysmurf Daenyth dagle damentz Damnshock Dan39 Danio Dashkal datagutt Dave123 davvs dawey DaZ DazWiLLiE dbatbold ddv ddv_ Deadguy Deiz delqn demarchi Demios` demonicm1niac3 der_harm DerPate derrida desal desg Desoxy desu Devastatorius develts devotchka dezza dflurker dguibert dhgwill dhsl Diamondcite Dieterbe Dillweed dings dings_ dino- dipiwee dist_ dixie dobo doc_who doda dodobas domidimi doobry dorftrot1el Drackin drag0nl0rd dramz drfox drizztbsd dropdrive dsb dubnukem duckpunch dunz0r Duran-Duran DURgod dvx dxtr e36freak ealexp ecc___ ecraven EdwardIII EffBee efs_ EIHoppe eir el_seano elake elbjorn elFidel elfreak elliottcable elproxy elsewho encbladexp enderst Enj0lras Enjolras eoss ephemeros erk ernetas Error404NotFound Ertyle Esmil EspadaV8 ethail etix eto Evanescence Evanlec EvanR everett_ evert evhan evpuneq evr__ execat eyescream EyesIsMine|iPod f0i FabianS faemir faffi fakeroot falchiee falconindy falu familly Fanatic Fatsobob Ferran Ferus Fflam fignew fildi FireFly firesock FiReSTaRT flaccid flashehpooh flax^_ flexd FlorianJW-mars fluter fn0rd fnord0 fogobogo foocraft foutrelis frak frank__ frantk fryguy Fudge fumbles futilius g4 gajop gardar gardintrapp Garoth garrik gegarchie gejr GenKreton Genolo gentz gewt gewuerzwiesel gfarfl gffa GGLucas Gigamo Gishten gnubien gnuvince godane gordonjcp gospodin graphitemaster Greg44 greymalkin groundnuty growlinux Guest37119 Guest61723 Guest68087 hachiya hallman ham5 Hamlin_ hampusw Hapsbana1 Harbinger hardfalcon HarryS harski hayaka he2 heftig Heikai hejki helgikrs henn1nk hfr hilquias hokapoka Hoppelchen hotdogs hrist HuMu hun_ hurricane iAmerikan iB0o icaunus Icedman icenine467 Ichigo IEM ighea igndenok ikonia ilj Ilu-babe_ imacake indascrnfx infinull infojunky Ingar inigo_ intgr invalidargue597 ioni Iota ircubic irnn is_null ISF ius Ivan1`off ivartj iZCrazy jabirali JackWinter Jagged jams Janhouse jank1310 jareth_ jarlg1 JavaAtom jayne jcppkkk Jeanne-Kamikaze Jed_84 jedijf jeekl jefferai jelly1 JeraldV jeremydei JesusRifle jettero jham jhark JHeaton Jimi` jimmy1980 jjcm jjwc jlewis jmad980 joeDeuce JoeHazzers john_f johndoy_ johnduh Jonimus joschi joshua_satterfie jrd0 jryan jshsu juah juancate julius2 juster jw8 jwbirdsong jxie Kadajski kalhid kalipus kamaji Kandu karabaja4 karihre kart0ffelsack karthikp_ kbar KBme kbrosnan Keba keenerd keks_ kelnoky kexibq kholo kichawa Kilroo kiooeht KitB KitsuneDrag0n KittyKatt kjellkt kkb110 kkris kl0n kleph klikklak kloeri kmshanah kniu Koigreen Konj kreig Kromgol kubit kurrata kutio kveras kwirk Kwpolska L0C41H05T l0rd_hex Lagnus lahwran laite lake lantanas lanxu Lartza lastebil_ Lattyware laumars Leftmost Legion leprechau l
2011-07-17 10:06:44 -- Channel #archlinux: 1054 nicks (0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 1054 normals)
2011-07-17 10:06:46 -- Channel created on Sat, 14 Feb 2004 23:08:31
2011-07-17 10:07:11 --> themattbeballin (~burchettm@32.150.72.102) has joined #archlinux
2011-07-17 10:07:11 -- Topic for #archlinux is "Welcome to Arch Linux World Domination Inc. <+> Dropping tcp_wrappers support: http://www.archlinux.org/news/dropping-tcp_wrappers-support/"
2011-07-17 10:07:11 -- Topic set by td123 on Sat, 16 Jul 2011 10:07:28
2011-07-17 10:07:11 -- Nicks #archlinux: [[knap] [vEX] __20h__ _fliXR- _ikke_ _nalle_ `kk `lorim a02 a3Dman aaronyy AbX adalgiso adam8157 Adjunct Aepelzen affect afiestas Afnarel aguitel aitorpazos ak-_ alexandernst Alexej64 AlexP alfox alfplayer alienvenom allanbrokeit alpounet alub amunak andyrtr_desktop aNone anonymouse89 anrxc Anthraxium anti-helix Aperculum appamatto aravind Arcanexil archevan Archtivity areisp_ arjovr artwin asack ashadocat Atm0z aupo avocado Awesomaes Axanon axion baedert bandito85 Bane^ banker247 Banton barratt Barthalion bassliner Bassqual1 batrick bauruine bazu bb10 bburhans beat beford BeholdMyGlory belak Belgarion_ benanne benn1 benoror benpro beppu Best_ betamine betuxer bier bier|tp big_t BigBlackDog billdawg Biolunar bioterror bl1nk Blaasvis BladedThesis BlankVerse blast_hardcheese BluABK Bluewind blut BombStrike bond` Borromini bougyman Bowler br0tat0chip brandonros brandonw brensly_ brisbin Brookie bruceber Bugson c0nv1ct Cadynum cafaro Caleb CalimeroTeknik calzifer candybar cantabile canti carlocci carlos_ Carneus Carpe|Diem cassmacguff caveat- cbounce cbreaker_ cbus cedeel celthunder ch077179 ChaozZBubi Chewtoy chip2n chitragupt chris2 chuck616 cicero Cigarillo Cleo clincher Cloudef CME codebit Codynyx comhack cosmonaut[] Count_0 crashmag creyon crs_ crshd cruxeternus CryptoCrack csgeek ct Cthulhu_Dawn cws CyberSix cybrhuman cyen d_garbage da3v dabreaka Dabuti__ Dad` daddysmurf Daenyth dagle damentz Damnshock Dan39 Danio Dashkal datagutt Dave123 davvs dawey DaZ DazWiLLiE dbatbold ddv ddv_ Deadguy Deiz delqn demarchi Demios` demonicm1niac3 der_harm DerPate derrida desal desg Desoxy desu Devastatorius develts devotchka dezza dflurker dguibert dhgwill dhsl Diamondcite Dieterbe Dillweed dings dings_ dino- dipiwee dist_ dixie dobo doc_who doda dodobas domidimi doobry dorftrot1el Drackin drag0nl0rd dramz drfox drizztbsd dropdrive dsb dubnukem duckpunch dunz0r Duran-Duran DURgod dvx dxtr e36freak ealexp ecc___ ecraven EdwardIII EffBee efs_ EIHoppe eir el_seano elake elbjorn elFidel elfreak elliottcable elproxy elsewho encbladexp enderst Enj0lras Enjolras eoss ephemeros erk ernetas Error404NotFound Ertyle Esmil EspadaV8 ethail etix eto Evanescence Evanlec EvanR everett_ evert evhan evpuneq evr__ execat eyescream EyesIsMine|iPod f0i FabianS faemir faffi fakeroot falchiee falconindy falu familly Fanatic Fatsobob Ferran Ferus Fflam fignew fildi FireFly firesock FiReSTaRT flaccid flashehpooh flax^_ flexd FlorianJW-mars fluter fn0rd fnord0 fogobogo foocraft foutrelis frak frank__ frantk fryguy Fudge fumbles futilius g4 gajop gardar gardintrapp Garoth garrik gegarchie gejr GenKreton Genolo gentz gewt gewuerzwiesel gfarfl gffa GGLucas Gigamo Gishten gnubien gnuvince godane gordonjcp gospodin graphitemaster Greg44 greymalkin groundnuty growlinux Guest37119 Guest61723 Guest68087 hachiya hallman ham5 Hamlin_ hampusw Hapsbana1 Harbinger hardfalcon HarryS harski hayaka he2 heftig Heikai hejki helgikrs henn1nk hfr hilquias hokapoka Hoppelchen hotdogs hrist HuMu hun_ hurricane iAmerikan iB0o icaunus Icedman icenine467 Ichigo IEM ighea igndenok ikonia ilj Ilu-babe_ imacake indascrnfx infinull infojunky Ingar inigo_ intgr invalidargue597 ioni Iota ircubic irnn is_null ISF ius Ivan1`off ivartj iZCrazy jabirali JackWinter Jagged jams Janhouse jank1310 jareth_ jarlg1 JavaAtom jayne jcppkkk Jeanne-Kamikaze Jed_84 jedijf jeekl jefferai jelly1 JeraldV jeremydei JesusRifle jettero jham jhark JHeaton Jimi` jimmy1980 jjcm jjwc jlewis jmad980 joeDeuce JoeHazzers john_f johndoy_ johnduh Jonimus joschi joshua_satterfie jrd0 jryan jshsu juah juancate julius2 juster jw8 jwbirdsong jxie Kadajski kalhid kalipus kamaji Kandu karabaja4 karihre kart0ffelsack karthikp_ kbar KBme kbrosnan Keba keenerd keks_ kelnoky kexibq kholo kichawa Kilroo kiooeht KitB KitsuneDrag0n KittyKatt kjellkt kkb110 kkris kl0n kleph klikklak kloeri kmshanah kniu Koigreen Konj kreig Kromgol kubit kurrata kutio kveras kwirk Kwpolska L0C41H05T l0rd_hex Lagnus lahwran laite lake lantanas lanxu Lartza lastebil_ Lattyware laumars Leftmost Legion leprechau l
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2011-07-17 10:08:33 linfan hi
2011-07-17 10:08:44 linfan went and bought some crap psu again - lol
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2011-07-17 10:09:00 linfan it has no 4-pin atx connector
2011-07-17 10:09:00 JavaAtom goober.
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2011-07-17 10:09:14 keenerd PSU is probably the most important part of any computer you want to use for more than a year :-(
2011-07-17 10:09:29 linfan again no standard
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2011-07-17 10:09:38 JavaAtom no standard?
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2011-07-17 10:09:39 JavaAtom what?
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2011-07-17 10:09:49 linfan no 4 pin atx
2011-07-17 10:09:52 JavaAtom Where do you live?! The Ass-end of the Planet?
2011-07-17 10:09:52 yitz_ Whomever built exim in testing... It doesn't list tcp_wrappers as a dep but ldd shows it links agains libwrap.so.0
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2011-07-17 10:10:18 linfan or maybe i don't need to connect the atx?
2011-07-17 10:10:23 JavaAtom uhh
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2011-07-17 10:13:35 linfan need to go get this http://www.pchcables.com/atx4pinto8pi.html
2011-07-17 10:13:37 phrik Title: 4" ATX 4 Pin to ATX 8 Pin power adapter cable (at www.pchcables.com)
2011-07-17 10:14:05 td123 yitz_: open a bug
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2011-07-17 10:14:33 td123 means it wasn't built in a chroot 8|
2011-07-17 10:14:45 linfan then i need to make additional holes or buy a completely new box
2011-07-17 10:15:13 Tucos my espeak is broken, something silly to do with pulseaudio: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/440791/ ; any ideas? (espeak uses portaudio which may be related)
2011-07-17 10:15:16 phrik Title: Paste #440791 | LodgeIt! (at paste.pocoo.org)
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2011-07-17 10:15:33 Jetbeard hello lovely arch linux people
2011-07-17 10:15:56 Jetbeard i have recently acquired a swanky DSLR camera that can save its images in Canon's proprietary .CR2 raw format
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2011-07-17 10:16:09 Jetbeard are there any utilities that can read, manipulate or convert these?
2011-07-17 10:16:34 yitz_ td123: The config/Makefile in testing has "USE_TCPWRAPPERS=yes" (or close to that)
2011-07-17 10:16:34 demonicm1niac3 Jetbeard: libraw
2011-07-17 10:16:43 JavaAtom Jetbeard: probably.
2011-07-17 10:16:54 JavaAtom Jetbeard: what does GIMP say?
2011-07-17 10:17:03 Jetbeard i haven't a clue, I'm on Windows at the moment :)
2011-07-17 10:17:06 ioni yitz_, that's a bug.
2011-07-17 10:17:17 ioni yitz_, post a patch as well
2011-07-17 10:17:17 yitz_ Filing...
2011-07-17 10:17:27 Visage Hey guys, every time I try starting openldap, I get the following error: slapd[28553]: segfault at 17d ip 00007f65093264f9 sp 00007fff220fcd60 error 4 in libc-2.14.so[7f65092af000+157000]. Is there any way I can fix this?
2011-07-17 10:17:40 jelly1 woot
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2011-07-17 10:18:07 td123 Visage: backtrace + report upstream
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2011-07-17 10:18:47 Visage td123, Can you give me the steps required to do that?
2011-07-17 10:18:59 yitz_ ioni: Starting to sound like a lot of work :P FF isn't supplying my flyspray login info :(
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2011-07-17 10:19:08 td123 Visage: sure
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2011-07-17 10:19:17 td123 !give Visage g how to get a backtrace
2011-07-17 10:19:17 ioni yitz_, maybe you are already logged :P
2011-07-17 10:19:18 phrik Visage: Gentoo Linux Documentation -- How to get meaningful backtraces in ...: <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/backtraces.xml>
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2011-07-17 10:19:43 yitz_ Nope
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2011-07-17 10:20:16 Visage td123, Thanks. :)
2011-07-17 10:20:53 td123 also, you might need to recompile the package with !strip if it lacks debug symbols
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2011-07-17 10:21:31 yitz_ Bah. Can't log into flyspray and a makepkg failed. I
2011-07-17 10:21:41 yitz_ Bah. Can't log into flyspray and a makepkg failed. I'm going to wimp out and email the packager
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2011-07-17 10:24:17 naquad how do i rebuild initrd of core boot image?
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2011-07-17 10:25:28 ioni yitz_, log in works fine here
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2011-07-17 10:26:47 yitz_ ioni: I forgot my login credentials and couldn't recall/guess them
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2011-07-17 10:27:29 blut yitz_: nice
2011-07-17 10:28:08 yitz_ Annoying :x Anyhow, I'm heading out
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2011-07-17 10:31:08 pandeiro is there a utility that lets one input a MS Word file and output plain text? I found wv but it doesn't seem to support piping.
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2011-07-17 10:32:13 td123 pandeiro: if you can't find anything, you should just be able to modify the source easily
2011-07-17 10:32:37 td123 instead of writing to a file, output to stdout
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2011-07-17 10:33:24 pandeiro never modified c source before but interesting idea... what i want to be able to use piping instead of an argument for the input file
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2011-07-17 10:34:29 td123 oh
2011-07-17 10:34:43 td123 you want to pipe *to* not from
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2011-07-17 10:35:20 pandeiro yep
2011-07-17 10:35:24 keenerd pandeiro: All of them support that. If nothing else, use - as the input file.
2011-07-17 10:35:52 sayu hello
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2011-07-17 10:36:10 pandeiro keenerd: really? do you know wv?
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2011-07-17 10:36:48 sayu I've installed flashplugin and I still can't watch any video on the web. What should I do?
2011-07-17 10:37:04 sudokode buy more dvds
2011-07-17 10:37:18 dagle sayu: Have you browser loaded it?
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2011-07-17 10:38:04 sayu dagle: I use epiphany and it does not work.
2011-07-17 10:38:20 dagle sayu: And epiphany see the plugin?
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2011-07-17 10:40:17 keenerd pandeiro: No I did not. I will have to try it. But catdoc, docx2txt, and antiword dowhat you want.
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2011-07-17 10:40:56 sayu dagle: no, it doesn't.
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2011-07-17 10:41:08 pandeiro keenerd: excellent thanks for the refs
2011-07-17 10:41:18 naquad how do i rebuild live cds archiso.img? it seems it uses xz compression, but after rebuilding (find . -print0 | bsdcpio -0oH news | xz -9c > ...) kernel can't mount it
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2011-07-17 10:41:52 dagle sayu: Does it say why it doesn't load it if you load it from a terminal?
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2011-07-17 10:43:11 sayu dagle: It says that I need to install it again.
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2011-07-17 10:43:49 sayu dagle: This is the version I've installed:flashplugin-10.3.181.34-1
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2011-07-17 10:48:03 dino- Wow, is cups + my HP 6840 printer really broken on new system I'm installing.
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2011-07-17 10:48:52 sayu This is insane, why does flashplugin not work on my system? What should I do to fix this problem?
2011-07-17 10:48:53 dino- I get up to my ass in the cups + hplip + python-dbus-fucknuttery + ?? and it just makes me wonder if I really give a shit about printing something out twice a year.
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2011-07-17 10:50:45 dino- sayu: what browser, and 64-bit?
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2011-07-17 10:52:23 sayu dino-: I use 32-bit system with epiphany.
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2011-07-17 10:54:43 sayu dino-: What do you recommend me to do?
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2011-07-17 10:54:54 canti Nothing can be fixed with flash, other than unplugging it.
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2011-07-17 10:55:57 gnubien sayu: work around: use clive to d/l the .flv then use mplayer to play it
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2011-07-17 10:56:25 demonicm1niac3 or use youtube-viewer
2011-07-17 10:56:31 demonicm1niac3 and skip all the extra steps
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2011-07-17 10:57:10 gnubien youtube-viewer in AUR?
2011-07-17 10:57:12 torl i've grabbed a ~/.fonts.conf from somewhere,and it made some fonts look sharp and very unpleasant to the eyes,then I moved it to .fonts.conf~ but the sharp fonts are still there(i've rebooted).I've also ran fc-cache -vrf,but it's still the same..how do i get back the fonts(dejavu sans is what I need,i've already reinstalled it)
2011-07-17 10:57:15 demonicm1niac3 yes
2011-07-17 10:57:23 fryguy or just install flashplugin and probably be done, and pastebin errors if you think otherwrise
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2011-07-17 11:00:21 dino- sayu: Not sure. I wonder if it's that epiphany can't see the plugin binary, like it's not in anywhere it's looking. http://mail.gnome.org/archives/epiphany-list/2007-October/msg00012.html
2011-07-17 11:00:22 phrik Title: Re: Epiphany - flash plugin (at mail.gnome.org)
2011-07-17 11:00:27 dino- sayu: But I don't know, don't use this browser.
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2011-07-17 11:00:41 dino- I'm sort of surprised it all works with Chromium even.
2011-07-17 11:01:00 dino- Also: Flash is such bullshit for video. Why won't it just DIEDIEDIE?
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2011-07-17 11:01:23 ioni dino-, epiphany is gtk3 and flashplugin is gtk2
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2011-07-17 11:01:39 sjihs torl: After moving .fonts.conf restart any app to get back "System wide" settings.
2011-07-17 11:01:46 dino- Ah, I saw something about that too with nswrapper something or other.
2011-07-17 11:01:49 ioni dino-, they don't support out of process plugins
2011-07-17 11:01:49 dino- ioni: ^
2011-07-17 11:01:55 ioni yes
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2011-07-17 11:02:09 torl sjihs >> i've rebooted and the fonts are still sharp
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2011-07-17 11:02:37 sjihs torl: Do you use a DE (e.g KDE or GNOME)?
2011-07-17 11:02:43 torl no
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2011-07-17 11:05:24 JonRob hey, nautilus isn't capable of mounting anything, it just says 'error creating mount point: no such file or directory'
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2011-07-17 11:06:11 JonRob i've looked around on the wiki and google, but can't find much
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2011-07-17 11:13:29 ioni dino-, for x86_64 is working of the box but for i686 you need to compile your own wrapper
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2011-07-17 11:14:12 phsi no out of process plugins? that's fucking weird
2011-07-17 11:14:25 ioni webkit has to support that imo
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2011-07-17 11:14:43 phsi how are you supposed to restrict plugins then? not cool
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2011-07-17 11:17:38 ioni webkit2 is going to have that :)
2011-07-17 11:17:43 ioni http://trac.webkit.org/wiki/WebKit2
2011-07-17 11:17:44 phrik Title: WebKit2 – WebKit (at trac.webkit.org)
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2011-07-17 11:24:23 imacake hai peepies.
2011-07-17 11:24:30 imacake ( lol)
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2011-07-17 11:24:51 dino- Hey, on my new system I tried netcfg and wifi-select instead of wicd. Nice!
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2011-07-17 11:25:17 dino- Going to use this at work too. Hope that idiot Macbook wifi I have there is supported soon.
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2011-07-17 11:26:42 imacake dino-: macbooks have that broadcom drivers required
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2011-07-17 11:27:11 imacake i have linux mint gnome 32bit(grmph) on my macbook, works better than mac and win7 together
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2011-07-17 11:27:17 imacake anyway, got a question
2011-07-17 11:27:35 imacake how to write my own desktop enviornment ?
2011-07-17 11:27:52 lstarnes it depends on what features you want
2011-07-17 11:28:35 imacake something very innovative. i created my own GUI for my java game, but since i hate java and hail C,....
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2011-07-17 11:28:43 imacake and i love linux, and i dont want to make just game GUIs,
2011-07-17 11:29:45 xdarklight why don't you use an existing desktop environment and create a nice theme for it?
2011-07-17 11:30:29 imacake =|
2011-07-17 11:30:29 dino- imacake: Mine has some super new chipset that's about to have support.
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2011-07-17 11:30:39 imacake xdarklight: fails my entire life ideology
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2011-07-17 11:31:03 xdarklight if I would write my own piece of software for everything that I'd want I'd be dead by now
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2011-07-17 11:31:22 xdarklight imacake: but I think freedesktop.org has specs for quite a few things on the linux desktop
2011-07-17 11:31:25 imacake i just hate libs. if possible i'd create my own OS. i even got "hello world" printed in QEMU. in various colors. I will retry later when i understand that memory managemnt
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2011-07-17 11:33:36 imacake xdarklight: okay, i guess nobody here can help. guess it will be easier writing my own os...
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2011-07-17 11:34:11 lstarnes busycake: a desktop envrionment is much easier, unless you just need an OS to print "Hello, World!"
2011-07-17 11:34:47 lstarnes I would start with either a window manager or a panel
2011-07-17 11:35:06 canti imacake: Then you probably want to think twice about using a mac. You're better off if you build a computer from atoms.
2011-07-17 11:35:07 lstarnes you also need to decide on which widget toolkit to use
2011-07-17 11:35:15 busycake no no, no way. its just that i dont understand why other people say its easier to build something upon something else. if i dont understand something _entirely_, i dont get anything
2011-07-17 11:35:32 busycake canti: i have a mac.
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2011-07-17 11:35:52 canti busycake: don't use it, you don't understand it ;)
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2011-07-17 11:36:00 lstarnes in this case, you're only building parts of the full system
2011-07-17 11:36:01 busycake exactly. i have linux on it
2011-07-17 11:36:02 lstarnes rather than the full system
2011-07-17 11:36:12 canti busycake: mac is the hardware
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2011-07-17 11:36:20 litb hi all
2011-07-17 11:36:27 lstarnes it's like cutting down trees to build a cabin instead of building the trees then cutting them down to build a cabin
2011-07-17 11:36:27 busycake which is an entire abstraction
2011-07-17 11:36:28 nivi woo arch on mac
2011-07-17 11:36:34 litb will it be possible to switch to clang as system compiler ?
2011-07-17 11:36:37 litb for arch=
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2011-07-17 11:36:51 busycake mint on mac
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2011-07-17 11:36:58 nivi bah
2011-07-17 11:37:08 busycake yeh. the more hardcore things are the more i like them
2011-07-17 11:37:09 keenerd bruenig bruenig bruenig
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2011-07-17 11:37:25 busycake its just, that i sometimes really need ssomething to be done a bit faster outdoor =P
2011-07-17 11:37:25 nivi people opening up my macbook and seeing wmii full of urxvts with python stuff open in vim
2011-07-17 11:37:31 nivi confuses them and entertains me
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2011-07-17 11:37:42 busycake =D
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2011-07-17 11:37:49 canti get over that
2011-07-17 11:37:51 canti grow up
2011-07-17 11:37:54 nivi :<
2011-07-17 11:37:56 nivi you're no fun
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2011-07-17 11:38:14 lstarnes it sure confused the other CS majors at my university when then saw Gnome for the first time
2011-07-17 11:38:26 nivi that's kinda scary
2011-07-17 11:38:34 nivi cs guys should know this stuff
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2011-07-17 11:39:02 lstarnes this was during a summer advising session
2011-07-17 11:39:04 nivi although i lived with a networking student for a while who knew less about actual, practical setup of an actual network than i did
2011-07-17 11:39:06 lstarnes they will by the end of the next 4 years
2011-07-17 11:39:13 nivi and i'm a fucking music student
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2011-07-17 11:39:21 lstarnes good luck
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2011-07-17 11:39:34 lstarnes I didn't even get in to a music program
2011-07-17 11:39:36 lstarnes I got close though
2011-07-17 11:39:39 nivi :<
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2011-07-17 11:39:46 lstarnes but I gave up and switched to computer science
2011-07-17 11:39:53 nivi probably for the best, to be honest
2011-07-17 11:40:01 nivi jobs, etc
2011-07-17 11:40:09 lstarnes I still plan to minor in it
2011-07-17 11:40:31 vsync_ minors are tight
2011-07-17 11:40:38 nivi uhh
2011-07-17 11:40:51 nivi you may want to rephrase that
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2011-07-17 11:41:17 vsync_ Oh, was merely indicating how hard they can be to fit your schedule!
2011-07-17 11:41:27 vsync_ fit in your schedule, that is
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2011-07-17 11:42:15 nivi minors
2011-07-17 11:42:35 nivi way too much joining and leaving in here
2011-07-17 11:42:49 lstarnes for a second I was expecting a music pun
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2011-07-17 11:42:59 nivi nope
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2011-07-17 11:43:07 nivi i was attempting something far, far more crass
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2011-07-17 11:43:16 nivi sorry to dissapoint
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2011-07-17 11:44:49 linfan hahaaa....
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2011-07-17 11:45:01 linfan Many are the afflictions of the righteous...
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2011-07-17 11:46:03 linfan ofc, I did buy the wrong 8 to 4 atx connector and I had the psu turned the wrong way... back to old psu, will eventually fix it tomorrow
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2011-07-17 11:47:11 Jed_84 hey guys
2011-07-17 11:47:33 tzervo litb: you mean to build packages using makepkg?
2011-07-17 11:48:15 Jed_84 I've got a 500gb disk that I have partitioned as follows: 40 gb ntfs partition for win 7, 60 gb partition for arch linux, 400 gb ntfs for my stuff
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2011-07-17 11:48:33 linfan what is opencl-nvidia?
2011-07-17 11:48:44 Jed_84 I'm using ntfs for my data partition because I thought i would be booting from win7 frequently
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2011-07-17 11:49:03 Jed_84 but turns out i'm on linux 99% of the time
2011-07-17 11:49:09 tzervo nivi: filter the join/leave messages :)
2011-07-17 11:49:14 Jed_84 so I'd like to change my data partition to another filesystem
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2011-07-17 11:49:24 Jed_84 what filesystem would you use for a data partition? ext3? ext4? reiserfs?
2011-07-17 11:49:32 sledgehammer ext4
2011-07-17 11:49:33 canti Jed_84: ext4
2011-07-17 11:49:34 lstarnes ext4 if it's pure linux
2011-07-17 11:49:38 Jed_84 yeah it's pure linux
2011-07-17 11:49:43 lstarnes ext3 if it needs to be shared with windows
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2011-07-17 11:49:54 Jed_84 ok, great
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2011-07-17 11:50:01 busycake whats the difference between ext3 and ext4... ?
2011-07-17 11:50:11 Jed_84 why is ext4 my best option?
2011-07-17 11:50:21 yngwin jfs
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2011-07-17 11:50:43 lstarnes ext4 has many new features, better performance, and can't be converted back to ext3 or mounted as ext3 or ext2
2011-07-17 11:51:00 Jed_84 yngwin, cool, why jfs?
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2011-07-17 11:51:37 lstarnes I've found that JFS is reliable, stable, performs about equally well on small and large files, and uses less CPU than most others
2011-07-17 11:51:45 lstarnes the same can be said for ext4
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2011-07-17 11:52:04 Jed_84 lstarnes, so why ext4 over jfs?
2011-07-17 11:52:13 lstarnes however, I occasionally have issues with JFS replacing files with zeroes on power failures
2011-07-17 11:52:16 root_op I'm having some troubles pairing my Apple Magic TrackPad. I've done the pairing once before using bluez-simple-agent so it's known by my system.
2011-07-17 11:52:27 lstarnes and the developers focus on ext4 more
2011-07-17 11:52:33 yngwin because it's rock stable, pretty fast and uses less cpu
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2011-07-17 11:52:39 root_op I've also set the Trusted property of the device to true so it shouldn't have any troubles connecting.
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2011-07-17 11:53:09 Jed_84 so lstarnes you think ext4 is more stable than jfs
2011-07-17 11:53:18 canti Jed_84: Because google chose ext4 http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/01/google-upgrading-to-ext4-hires-former-linux-foundation-cto.ars ;)
2011-07-17 11:53:18 lstarnes I use jfs for everything except a private encrypted data volume that I keep sensitive documents on
2011-07-17 11:53:18 phrik Title: Google upgrading to Ext4, hires former Linux Foundation CTO (at arstechnica.com)
2011-07-17 11:53:18 root_op However, trying hidd --connect <addr> gives me "Can't get device information: Connection refused".
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2011-07-17 11:53:20 keenerd Dumb question - is there any advantage to using stty size vs $WIDTH?
2011-07-17 11:53:20 Jed_84 do you yngwin think jfs is more stable than ext4?
2011-07-17 11:53:38 yngwin yes
2011-07-17 11:53:40 Jed_84 canti, that's a good reason for choosing ext4 :)
2011-07-17 11:53:44 keenerd * $COLUMNS
2011-07-17 11:53:50 canti keenerd: Obviously
2011-07-17 11:53:51 Jed_84 yngwin, ok, care to explain why?
2011-07-17 11:54:02 yngwin it's more mature
2011-07-17 11:54:05 canti *Jed_84
2011-07-17 11:54:07 keenerd canti: Care to enlighten?
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2011-07-17 11:54:21 canti keenerd: was talking to Jed_84 :D
2011-07-17 11:54:28 root_op Also, using hcitool cc <addr> gives me absolutely nothing. So I assume it does connect well, listing connections with hcitool con gives me no active Connections.
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2011-07-17 11:54:45 yngwin ext4 is just a placeholder fs to offer certain modern features until btrfs becomes stable
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2011-07-17 11:55:22 lstarnes or until a full port of ZFS matures
2011-07-17 11:55:26 root_op Actually, hidd states "Can't create HID control channel: Connection refused".
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2011-07-17 11:55:43 canti keenerd: As to your question, all I know is you need `shopt -s checkwinsize` for $COLUMNS...
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2011-07-17 11:56:19 demonicm1niac3 last but not least jfs keeps your cpu cool
2011-07-17 11:56:34 lstarnes ext4's CPU usage isn't very huge though
2011-07-17 11:56:45 demonicm1niac3 compared to jfs it certainly is
2011-07-17 11:57:10 lstarnes compare it to anything that uses FUSE
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2011-07-17 11:57:21 demonicm1niac3 that doesn't count
2011-07-17 11:57:46 dagle lstarnes: Compare anything to FUSE.
2011-07-17 11:57:52 demonicm1niac3 next you're gonna compare memory usage of jvm and compiled native binaries
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2011-07-17 11:58:02 demonicm1niac3 omgz jvm takes 1000x more
2011-07-17 11:58:04 demonicm1niac3 :P
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2011-07-17 12:09:16 root_op Alright, then let me simplify this; Has anybody had any luck with pairing _any_ Apple device with bluetooth? Manually.
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2011-07-17 12:09:49 falconindy sure
2011-07-17 12:09:55 falconindy my htpc has an apple bluetooth keyboard
2011-07-17 12:10:07 falconindy is it a pain in the ass? yes. its bluetooth.
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2011-07-17 12:11:37 tlonim root_op: it was quite easy to pair my phone with macbook
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2011-07-17 12:12:11 tlonim what you mean by manually..sure i had to enter PIN etc..but it was simple
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2011-07-17 12:13:06 JavaAtom !ubuntu
2011-07-17 12:13:07 phrik http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rbeqbj-n1Z0/Skeak1qBGyI/AAAAAAAAAeM/3k_ntrDWmOw/s1600-h/ubuntu.png
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2011-07-17 12:15:17 nivi root_op: yes
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2011-07-17 12:15:31 nivi i paired my android phone with my macbook running arch :3
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2011-07-17 12:16:18 Zopiac I cannot get HDMI audio to work. I have unmuted the spdif option under alsamixer which shows up when I select the "hdmi" sound device
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2011-07-17 12:17:00 root_op Well, I just can't seem to connect it.
2011-07-17 12:17:03 Zopiac It was working under pulseaudio yesterday when I tried out Gnome3 again but since Pulse breaks completely everything else on my system I uninstalled it today and HDMI doesn't work anymore
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2011-07-17 12:17:29 root_op It has been paired, I.e it's authenticated and trusted according to org.bluez.Device.GetProperties.
2011-07-17 12:17:38 root_op However, hcitool con still gives me no connections.
2011-07-17 12:17:52 root_op And hcitool cc doesn't say squat. It just finishes.
2011-07-17 12:18:05 Zopiac Pulse pretty much just autoconfigures a bunch of alsa things, right? that's what I understand it to do, at least. If so, that means I can edit ALSA stuff to get HDMI output
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2011-07-17 12:18:43 falconindy pulse is a sound server. it has no direct hardware access so it uses alsa (or some other method) as a sink
2011-07-17 12:18:45 heftig Zopiac: pulse uses alsa just for getting hardware properties and doing the actual output, all the magic happens inside PA
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2011-07-17 12:19:52 falconindy pulse doesn't like my m-audio card, but that's no surprise because neither does alsa.
2011-07-17 12:20:13 manutortosa then use ossv4
2011-07-17 12:20:17 falconindy i do
2011-07-17 12:21:04 Zopiac does that mean that I need pulse for HDMI out?
2011-07-17 12:21:16 heftig no, not neccessarily
2011-07-17 12:21:20 pandeiro keenerd: do you happen to know if catdoc or docx2txt can support non-ascii output?
2011-07-17 12:21:26 heftig you just need to deal with the hell that is manually configuring alsa
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2011-07-17 12:22:24 grawity manutortosa: somewhat reminds me of https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=46887
2011-07-17 12:22:25 phrik Title: FIX/FILE BUGS dont IGNORE (Page 1) / Arch Discussion / Arch Linux Forums (at bbs.archlinux.org)
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2011-07-17 12:23:59 manutortosa well as far as i can see there's also bugs remaining for years in the arch bug tracker without resolution or answer
2011-07-17 12:24:25 manutortosa but i bug fill is the way to go yes
2011-07-17 12:24:54 manutortosa /s/i/a
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2011-07-17 12:29:27 sledgehammer manutortosa, you can always (try to) fix open bugs yourself, you know - if you think they've been open too long I mean
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2011-07-17 12:31:10 manutortosa sledgehammer: sure, i never fill big report, i send patches, some get applied and some rejected
2011-07-17 12:31:13 manutortosa *bug
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2011-07-17 12:32:09 sledgehammer !praise manutortosa
2011-07-17 12:32:10 * phrik gives manutortosa a fistbump
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2011-07-17 12:32:38 keenerd pandeiro: Sorry, no idea.
2011-07-17 12:33:03 pandeiro keenerd: np thks
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2011-07-17 12:39:51 [MatSalleh] How do I reduce this output: "Battery 0: Charging, 85%, 00:32:53 until charged" to just the percentage, '85'?
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2011-07-17 12:39:57 [MatSalleh] I need it for a simple bash script.
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2011-07-17 12:40:53 sledgehammer [MatSalleh], sed, awk, cut - probably some others aso
2011-07-17 12:40:55 sledgehammer also*
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2011-07-17 12:41:10 falconindy sed -n 's/.*\([[:digit:]]\+\)%.*/\1/p'
2011-07-17 12:41:14 Lotus- grep -o "[0-9]\+\%"
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2011-07-17 12:41:30 falconindy that would keep the percent though
2011-07-17 12:41:30 heftig [MatSalleh]: echo $output | grep -oE '[0-9]+%'
2011-07-17 12:41:39 heftig ah, this too
2011-07-17 12:41:44 Lotus- ah, sorry, without the percentage
2011-07-17 12:41:45 sledgehammer omg it's the invasion of the spoonfeeders
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2011-07-17 12:42:10 Lotus- well, "grep -o "[0-9]\+\%" | sed 's/%//'" then :)
2011-07-17 12:42:21 heftig echo "aojdoaskjd 85% oaksodk" | grep -oP '[0-9]+(?=%)'
2011-07-17 12:42:49 falconindy lulz pcre
2011-07-17 12:43:27 zendeavor i'm sick of my term font
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2011-07-17 12:43:40 heftig use wingdings
2011-07-17 12:43:49 e36freak PCRE with grep? ew
2011-07-17 12:43:50 heftig er, windings
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2011-07-17 12:44:21 zendeavor how do i find out the naming convention to use in place of my current font
2011-07-17 12:44:28 e36freak sed -n '/.*\([0-9]\+\)%.*/s//\1/p'
2011-07-17 12:44:41 falconindy bloat
2011-07-17 12:44:43 e36freak blot
2011-07-17 12:44:48 zendeavor blat
2011-07-17 12:44:52 sledgehammer zendeavor, man page of your term app
2011-07-17 12:45:08 e36freak oh wait, this is just a string?
2011-07-17 12:45:34 e36freak var=${var%%%*}; echo "${var##* }"
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2011-07-17 12:45:54 [MatSalleh] heftig: How can I get rid of the % sign?
2011-07-17 12:45:54 canti zendeavor: xlsfont X core fonts, fc-list for xft, if I understand your question right.
2011-07-17 12:45:54 falconindy assuming there's only ever 1 %
2011-07-17 12:46:21 canti zendeavor: s/xlsfont/xlsfonts/
2011-07-17 12:46:22 heftig [MatSalleh]: use the second command I wrote
2011-07-17 12:46:34 falconindy re='([[:digit:]]+)%'; [[ $(acpi) =~ $re ]] && echo ${BASH_REMATCH[1]}
2011-07-17 12:46:35 falconindy oh lawd
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2011-07-17 12:47:20 e36freak BASH_REMATCH!
2011-07-17 12:47:20 falconindy i lost my rematch =(
2011-07-17 12:47:20 brisbin gawd you love bash. why don't you get married already
2011-07-17 12:47:20 e36freak brisbin: still not legal
2011-07-17 12:47:20 falconindy brisbin: as soon as you marry haskell
2011-07-17 12:47:20 brisbin we're already in a civil union
2011-07-17 12:47:20 grawity YOU FUCKERS BROKE MY TROLLOMETER AGAIN
2011-07-17 12:47:23 [MatSalleh] heftig: Got it mate, thanks v much
2011-07-17 12:47:42 brisbin we've lived together long enough
2011-07-17 12:47:43 falconindy !grab grawity
2011-07-17 12:47:43 phrik falconindy: Tada!
2011-07-17 12:47:55 [MatSalleh] acpi isn't detecting my battery and hibernating, even with the pol script... So I'm making my own...
2011-07-17 12:47:58 falconindy i wouldn't call it civil
2011-07-17 12:48:03 brisbin we make it work
2011-07-17 12:48:13 parcs in mplayer, whats the difference between the xv and the vaapi rendering methods? they both claim to be hardware-accelerated, and performance with each seems to be roughly the same
2011-07-17 12:48:19 falconindy [MatSalleh]: if all you want is a battery meter, forking for acpi is expensive. just poll /sys
2011-07-17 12:48:30 heftig parcs: xv provides only hardware accelerated display
2011-07-17 12:48:36 heftig parcs: vaapi provides accelerated decoding
2011-07-17 12:48:43 brisbin reading /sys takes an annoyingly long time on my macbook
2011-07-17 12:48:49 falconindy really?
2011-07-17 12:48:50 brisbin had to take the battery out of my prompt
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2011-07-17 12:49:04 falconindy i tested like 6 different scripts (awk, perl, bash)
2011-07-17 12:49:04 brisbin long enough that `clear` would take a second or two to come back
2011-07-17 12:49:05 parcs heftig: i see. thanks :)
2011-07-17 12:49:23 falconindy reading a sysfs node with awk won, bigtime
2011-07-17 12:49:26 brisbin i figured i had inneficient parsing, but just catting the battery info was slow
2011-07-17 12:49:42 falconindy your battery is slow.
2011-07-17 12:49:44 falconindy but not to discharge.
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2011-07-17 12:49:58 brisbin figures
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2011-07-17 12:51:52 * dagle just loves how huir is prenouced in chinese. XD
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2011-07-17 15:53:36 conley am too dumb to figure out how to configure acpid apparently :/ I'm just frustrated and bitching is all
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2011-07-17 15:53:55 zendeavor conley: if you're not getting things to work in your new WM/panel, then you're probably doing it wrong
2011-07-17 15:53:59 juhl conley: sounds like "study time" ;-)
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2011-07-17 15:54:19 zendeavor you obviously don't want a development environment that you don't understand yet.
2011-07-17 15:54:25 conley juhl: I've been doing that :P but I like to be successful with something every once in a while
2011-07-17 15:54:41 zendeavor conley: for now, keep your DE as a fallback option.
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2011-07-17 15:55:01 zendeavor conley: at least until you figure out how to get the rest of your supplements configured
2011-07-17 15:55:02 conley zendeavor: I don't have one. I've made it from scratch but I'm starting to wonder if I should have
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2011-07-17 15:55:16 zendeavor conley: what WM do you use then
2011-07-17 15:55:18 conley zendeavor: openbox
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2011-07-17 15:55:34 zendeavor conley: panel?
2011-07-17 15:55:36 juhl conley: you want minimal, you want simple; try fluxbox, afterstep, evilwm, twm... those are all pretty basic and pretty simple... also check the wiki link to Window Managers I gave you
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2011-07-17 15:55:54 conley either pypanel or tint2, or something else I guess
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2011-07-17 15:56:13 conley juhl: yes I know, I've been looking through wms for a while now
2011-07-17 15:56:16 zendeavor conley: tint2 is slick. idk about pypanel
2011-07-17 15:56:32 conley well it isn't even updated anymore. I use tint2 actively and have pypanel just in case
2011-07-17 15:56:36 conley pypanel
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2011-07-17 15:56:58 juhl conley: what exactely is not working for you with a basic WM ??
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2011-07-17 15:57:10 shedammit I'm getting "not large enough to join array" even though the partition is the exact same size as the others. (fdisk reports same # of blocks)
2011-07-17 15:57:22 shedammit partprobe doesn't help
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2011-07-17 15:57:46 shedammit wiki says to reboot, but if that's not an immediate option is there any other way to fix this?
2011-07-17 15:57:46 juhl shedammit: doing what exactely?
2011-07-17 15:57:56 zendeavor if it's not working in openbox, something is being configured wrong
2011-07-17 15:57:56 zendeavor imo
2011-07-17 15:58:11 juhl shedammit: creating a raid?
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2011-07-17 15:58:41 shedammit juhl: hot-adding to an existing raid
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2011-07-17 15:58:50 shedammit mdadm -a /dev/sdb2 /dev/md127
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2011-07-17 15:59:18 juhl shedammit: make sure the devices/partitions are exactely the same size (or larger)... fdisk -l /dev/<foo> is a start..
2011-07-17 15:59:29 conley juhl: anything power management related, my volume keys, bluetooth (haven't tried messing with it yet) umm little things like dropbox doesn't work at boot, little bugs
2011-07-17 15:59:29 shedammit juhl: see my comment. fdisk reports exactly same # of blocks
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2011-07-17 15:59:43 sledgehammer conley, so take one issue at a time, and solve it
2011-07-17 15:59:43 shedammit 1460942848 to be precise :P
2011-07-17 15:59:58 conley Do I need a composition manager? I don't even want one really but tint2 has these black bars because it can't do transparency otherwise and it drives me crazy
2011-07-17 16:00:17 zendeavor conley: xcompmgr-git-tint2
2011-07-17 16:00:20 conley sledgehammer: I know. That's what I've been trying to do and it just gets so frustrating when nothing works
2011-07-17 16:00:26 shedammit same problem as here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Convert_a_single_drive_system_to_RAID#Note
2011-07-17 16:00:31 phrik Title: Convert a single drive system to RAID - ArchWiki (at wiki.archlinux.org)
2011-07-17 16:00:36 zendeavor conley: sorry, it's aur/xcompmgr_tint2-git
2011-07-17 16:00:39 conley zendeavor: but xcompmgr isn't updated anymore, is it?
2011-07-17 16:00:39 sledgehammer conley, fyi tint2 works fine without compositing
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2011-07-17 16:00:48 zendeavor no but it works perfectly fine conley.
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2011-07-17 16:01:17 conley zendeavor: oh, well the wiki said xcompmgr has issues with tint2 so I installed cairo-compmgr :z
2011-07-17 16:01:40 sledgehammer conley, why do you want compositing? not exactly minimal is it? :)
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2011-07-17 16:02:11 zendeavor conley: either way, just recommended xcompmgr for it's lightness
2011-07-17 16:02:20 conley sledgehammer: I know. It's the black squares at the edges of tint2. that's it :/
2011-07-17 16:02:49 * sledgehammer has tint2 + openbox, no black squares
2011-07-17 16:02:54 zendeavor hrm
2011-07-17 16:03:02 juhl shedammit: hmm, I've had that problem when stuff was not, in fact, the same size, but the solution has (for me) always been to then fix the sizes (get properly sized devices) - so no good ideas - sorry..
2011-07-17 16:03:11 zendeavor conley: might be an issue in your configuration of tint2
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2011-07-17 16:04:10 demonicm1niac3 fyi fluxbox autohiding panel works great without compositing :)
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2011-07-17 16:05:04 shedammit juhl: could the position on the disk matter? Basically I repartitioned one of the raid disks to fit a 256MB boot partition in front. Normally they are all the first partition.
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2011-07-17 16:05:52 shedammit I thought hot-removing and hot-adding it would be fine as long as fdisk reported the same # of blocks
2011-07-17 16:06:09 juhl shedammit: not sure, but I guess that could very well be relevant..
2011-07-17 16:06:09 shedammit thought fdisk was smarter than that ;)
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2011-07-17 16:08:10 juhl shedammit: personally I've usually made raids out of raw devices, not partitions, so I'm not sure... but it sounds plausible..
2011-07-17 16:08:13 shedammit I guess i could fudge the size up by a couple MB but that always made me feel messy
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2011-07-17 16:08:13 shedammit an incidentally, the fact that i didnt use raw devices is what will make this possible :)
2011-07-17 16:08:13 shedammit gives some wiggle room
2011-07-17 16:08:13 conley sledgehammer: the rounded edges aren't black?
2011-07-17 16:08:21 sledgehammer conley, no
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2011-07-17 16:08:39 conley sledgehammer: so you have transparency?
2011-07-17 16:08:49 sledgehammer conley, pseudo
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2011-07-17 16:09:06 sledgehammer no compositing here
2011-07-17 16:09:08 conley sledgehammer: how did you get that?
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2011-07-17 16:09:36 sledgehammer conley, tbh I don't remember - haven't touched the config in over two years
2011-07-17 16:10:07 sledgehammer conley, here it is: http://codepad.org/AVmxXF5L if it's of any interest
2011-07-17 16:10:10 phrik Title: Plain Text code - 79 lines - codepad (at codepad.org)
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2011-07-17 16:10:57 cryptopsy is there a commandline tool for pptx to pdf or image?
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2011-07-17 16:12:53 karabaja4 cryptopsy: i doubt it.
2011-07-17 16:12:58 Nismine I have a creative hs-950 headset (usb) and it often causes pulseaudio to crash and restart, usually when I start watching a video, anyone know what might be the problem?
2011-07-17 16:12:59 karabaja4 cryptopsy: just use libreoffice
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2011-07-17 16:13:30 cryptopsy too big
2011-07-17 16:13:43 juhl cryptopsy: without actually having checked; I'd guess that ImageMagick could do it (if anything)...
2011-07-17 16:13:48 tzervo cryptopsy: loimpress -convert-to pdf yourfile (unfortunately you have to have libreoffice installed)
2011-07-17 16:13:54 karabaja4 cryptopsy: pptx is hardly light format
2011-07-17 16:14:10 juhl or maybe not
2011-07-17 16:14:20 juhl google says no :(
2011-07-17 16:14:29 conley sledgehammer: so
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2011-07-17 16:14:45 conley pixmap background detection failed probably means that my X is messed up?
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2011-07-17 16:15:39 sledgehammer conley, no idea
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2011-07-17 16:15:57 juhl cryptopsy: can't you open them in libreoffice if you just add enough swap ? ;)
2011-07-17 16:16:14 sledgehammer !give conley g pixmap background detection failed
2011-07-17 16:16:26 phrik conley: Issue 306 - tint2 - Tint2: pixmap background detection failed ...: <http://code.google.com/p/tint2/issues/detail?id=306>
2011-07-17 16:16:40 sledgehammer next time you do the googling
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2011-07-17 16:18:14 juhl sledgehammer: we need a phrik shortcut that does a http://lmgtfy.com/ search ;)
2011-07-17 16:19:52 phrik Title: Let me google that for you (at lmgtfy.com)
2011-07-17 16:19:52 sledgehammer indeed :)
2011-07-17 16:19:52 brotatos noooo
2011-07-17 16:19:52 brotatos please no D:
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2011-07-17 16:19:52 brotatos kernel panic
2011-07-17 16:19:52 brotatos for no reason
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2011-07-17 16:19:53 sledgehammer there's always a reason
2011-07-17 16:19:53 dagle !panic
2011-07-17 16:19:53 phrik http://omploader.org/vZm1w
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2011-07-17 16:20:18 conley sledgehammer: okay, so if you run a window behind your tint2 at the very edges, it doesn't inherit the windows colors, correct?
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2011-07-17 16:20:26 juhl brotatos: computers rarely do anything for no specific reason - it's in their nature ;)
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2011-07-17 16:20:57 demonicm1niac3 juhl: neutrinos from space!!!
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2011-07-17 16:21:40 brotatos juhl, I got a "you're on your own" comment when i rebooted because the install was ruined.
2011-07-17 16:21:40 demonicm1niac3 they flip the bits
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2011-07-17 16:21:40 juhl brotatos: if you've got a panic, then you've most likely also got a register dump and a backtrace
2011-07-17 16:21:40 sledgehammer conley, no idea - like i said, I haven't even thought about tint2 since I set it up, so I've forgotten anything I may have known. Keep googling :)
2011-07-17 16:21:40 juhl brotatos: from that a reason can often be worked out (although it can be tricky)
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2011-07-17 16:21:55 brotatos definitely
2011-07-17 16:22:11 juhl demonicm1niac3: that's still "a reason"..
2011-07-17 16:22:20 demonicm1niac3 indeed but it appears random
2011-07-17 16:22:20 conley sledgehammer: can't you try it? just put any window behind it
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2011-07-17 16:22:26 Shirakawasuna I'm doing some super basic webdev stuff (apache server, mysql, php, javascript) for a database. It was set up by someone else and I have essentially zero experience with webdev. Lately I've been doing minor tweaks on the production-level site, but this is of course very dangerous (and I want to start doing more serious tweaks). Could someone point me in the right direction for safely pushing updates/database tweaks (and editing
2011-07-17 16:22:26 Shirakawasuna them locally, etc), if not an entire guide on this stuff?
2011-07-17 16:22:26 demonicm1niac3 as there's no feasible way of measuring
2011-07-17 16:23:03 fryguy Shirakawasuna: use capistrano
2011-07-17 16:23:03 fryguy !next
2011-07-17 16:23:03 phrik Another satisfied customer! NEXT!
2011-07-17 16:23:03 Shirakawasuna my current method right now is to rsync backup the whole site, then tweak, then hope stuff doesn't explode
2011-07-17 16:23:03 zendeavor total size is 14244309 speedup is 12.88
2011-07-17 16:23:03 zendeavor what is speedup?
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2011-07-17 16:23:05 zendeavor from `sudo abs'
2011-07-17 16:23:08 Lartza Help with samba? With xbmc4xbox I can get to a directory listing but not to the shared directories
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2011-07-17 16:23:16 fryguy zendeavor: http://www.google.com/search?q=rsync+what+is+speedup&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
2011-07-17 16:23:16 phrik Title: rsync what is speedup - Google-Suche (at www.google.com)
2011-07-17 16:23:18 demonicm1niac3 zendeavor: git compresses data before sending
2011-07-17 16:23:31 demonicm1niac3 the speedup is what you save on bandwith compared to raw
2011-07-17 16:23:33 juhl demonicm1niac3: not arguing that... but with ecc/chipkill ram and the like, panics due to random bitflips are getting rare - and even when they do happen they still have to flip something significant, not just unused memory or some data where they don't cause a crash - odds are pretty low with proper hardware...
2011-07-17 16:23:35 zendeavor oh neat
2011-07-17 16:23:39 Lartza On gentoo I can get to a music directory but not sub-directories of artists
2011-07-17 16:23:47 zendeavor thanks, just curious for a second there
2011-07-17 16:23:51 Lartza Arch host only lists shared directories
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2011-07-17 16:24:32 zendeavor fryguy: thanks, i like google too
2011-07-17 16:24:46 zendeavor use it all the time
2011-07-17 16:24:46 Lartza unix_err:'2' nt_err : 'c0000034' error : 'NT_STATUS_OBJECT_NAME_NOT_FOUND'
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2011-07-17 16:24:55 fryguy zendeavor: yah it's awesome when the first result gives you exactly the information you are looking for
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2011-07-17 16:25:07 zendeavor fryguy: indeed it is!
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2011-07-17 16:26:16 zendeavor fryguy: shame I couldn't find those results because I was searching for `abs' specific results which lead to lots of "how to get hot abs in 12 minutes!" advertorials instead
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2011-07-17 16:26:36 zendeavor :)
2011-07-17 16:26:52 Shirakawasuna fryguy: awesome. One more newb question: this database gets updated fairly regularly by users, but I want to add a column. I just wanted to verify that it's possible to edit this stuff 'offline' and merge it w/ production without removing their entries. Also, I'll stop bothering you with newb questions ;)
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2011-07-17 16:27:09 dagle zendeavor: If downloading abs takes 12 minutes... then it's really bad. :)
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2011-07-17 16:28:32 fryguy Shirakawasuna: it depends on the schema change, but it's usually possible to just do it online
2011-07-17 16:28:46 zendeavor dagle: lol that would be bad indeed ;D
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2011-07-17 16:28:46 Shirakawasuna fryguy: got it. So I just need to be careful and do it live
2011-07-17 16:28:46 fryguy Shirakawasuna: most of the database migrations I do end up being online, although sometimes scheduled for offhours if they are going to run for a while and affect site performance
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2011-07-17 16:28:46 Shirakawasuna fryguy: cool, thanks for the help! I'm much less freaked out about it now ;)
2011-07-17 16:28:46 fryguy Shirakawasuna: also, set up a staging environment to test on
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2011-07-17 16:30:13 Shirakawasuna fryguy: I think I'll just read a proper webdev book before screwing with too much. I don't know the proper way to do the staging, for example
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2011-07-17 16:31:46 fryguy Shirakawasuna: it's an exact copy of your production site, hosted on similar hardware, accessible from a different location
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2011-07-17 16:32:40 Kromgol Planning on doing a triple monitor setup, i already got a 1920x1080, does it matter if i buy 2 1920x1080 of another model and use them as well as my current 1920x1080? Or will i have a problem with the height, where the screen space is located? etc
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2011-07-17 16:32:57 Shirakawasuna fryguy: got it. I'm not sure if I could really make an exact copy of everything (the apache setup, for example), as it's hosted for us by another group. But I'm assuming I could set up a chroot or something that has its own apache/mysql/etc setup with the site copied somewhere
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2011-07-17 16:34:18 dagle Kromgol: Software there wont be any problems (if they all follow the standards).
2011-07-17 16:34:18 Kromgol dagle: I meant the physical screens now
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2011-07-17 16:34:18 Kromgol As the screen might be located on different heights depending on the model of the screen?
2011-07-17 16:34:18 Kromgol Even if it's the same resolution.
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2011-07-17 16:34:18 Tucos whether that's a problem is up to you :p
2011-07-17 16:34:18 Tucos but even when buying the same monitors a while later they might have revised it
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2011-07-17 16:34:18 fryguy Shirakawasuna: when you fuck up and crash your production site, hopefully this other group takes the hint and gives you the resources you need to do your job correctly
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2011-07-17 16:34:28 fryguy Shirakawasuna: don't be this guy willingly: http://www.bnj.com/cowboy-coding-pink-sombrero/
2011-07-17 16:34:28 phrik Title: Cowboy Coding and the Pink Sombrero | Babcock & Jenkins (at www.bnj.com)
2011-07-17 16:34:37 Kromgol Tucos: Well, would look ugly if two monitors were 2cm higher than the other one lol
2011-07-17 16:35:10 Tucos Kromgol: it's worse if they're almost the same but aren't :p
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